In “When We First Met”, we spotlight the various characters, phrases, objects or events that eventually became notable parts of comic lore. Today, we look at the first times that Spider-Man’s three greatest rogues; Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus and Venom, showed up to fight another superhero in a non-Spider-Man comic book title.An interesting aspect of the concept of a shared universe is that while the Marvel Universe was nominally a shared universe from very early on, it wasn’t like there was a whole ton of crossover from one title to another in terms of characters fighting Spider-Man in one title and, say, the Hulk in another title. It obviously DID happen, but it was either treated like a big deal (like when Doctor Doom showed up in Amazing Spider-Man) or it was, like, a specific migration (like Sandman becoming an “official” Fantastic Four foe). In fact, the idea of each superhero sort of having their own specific villains was the centerpiece of the 1989-90 Marvel crossover, Acts of Vengeance, where a group of super villains got together and decided to coordinate an attack on the superheroes of the world by having the rogues of one superhero fight a different superhero, who presumably would be unprepared to face off against an unfamiliar foe.The first thing to note for something like this is that I’m obviously not going to count anything in an alternate reality, like What If…?s or Avengers Annual #2 (a story set in an alternate reality where the Scarlet Centurion conquered the Marvel Universe, including fighting the super villains of the world like Doctor Octopus). That’s not what we’re looking for here. However, I think Secret Wars would count if that was the first time that Doctor Octopus appeared in a non-Spider-man comic book title.
In “When We First Met”, we spotlight the various characters, phrases, objects or events that eventually became notable parts of comic lore. Today, we look at the first times that Spider-Man’s three greatest rogues; Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus and Venom, showed up to fight another superhero in a non-Spider-Man comic book title.
An interesting aspect of the concept of a shared universe is that while the Marvel Universe was nominally a shared universe from very early on, it wasn’t like there was a whole ton of crossover from one title to another in terms of characters fighting Spider-Man in one title and, say, the Hulk in another title. It obviously DID happen, but it was either treated like a big deal (like when Doctor Doom showed up in Amazing Spider-Man) or it was, like, a specific migration (like Sandman becoming an “official” Fantastic Four foe). In fact, the idea of each superhero sort of having their own specific villains was the centerpiece of the 1989-90 Marvel crossover, Acts of Vengeance, where a group of super villains got together and decided to coordinate an attack on the superheroes of the world by having the rogues of one superhero fight a different superhero, who presumably would be unprepared to face off against an unfamiliar foe.
The first thing to note for something like this is that I’m obviously not going to count anything in an alternate reality, like What If…?s or Avengers Annual #2 (a story set in an alternate reality where the Scarlet Centurion conquered the Marvel Universe, including fighting the super villains of the world like Doctor Octopus). That’s not what we’re looking for here. However, I think Secret Wars would count if that was the first time that Doctor Octopus appeared in a non-Spider-man comic book title.
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